-LRB- CNN -RRB- -- On Tuesday night 's `` Larry King Live , '' guest host Joy Behar talked about whether the Rihanna/Chris Brown case sends a dangerous message .

Robin Givens told Joy Behar Tuesday night that details of domestic abuse are often the same .

Among her guests were Robin Givens and Denise Brown . In an emotional interview , Behar examines how domestic abuse starts and why it 's hard to stop .

The following transcript has been edited for brevity and clarity :

Guest host Joy Behar : In a `` Larry King Live '' exclusive , Robin Givens and Denise Brown sound the warning to one quarter of all women who will be kicked , punched , raped , even killed by partners in their life times . ...

We 're talking about Rihanna and Chris Brown and the allegations against him .

As you 've just heard , the numbers are pretty appalling . Joining me now is someone who lived it : actress , ex-wife of former heavyweight champ Mike Tyson and spokesperson for the National Domestic Violence Hotline , Robin Givens . Greetings .

Robin Givens : Greetings .

Behar : Does this Rihanna/Chris Brown -LSB- story -RSB- bring up bad memories for you ?

Givens : Yes , it does .

Behar : Tell me how you 've been feeling lately while you 're watching this on television ?

Givens : Even sitting now , you know , here with you , it shakes you up . You know , you begin to sweat . You begin to feel sad all over . ... It 's hard to sit here . Watch Givens describe living with abuse ''

Behar . You were saying to me before that it 's always the same story . What do you mean by that ?

Givens : I 've spoken to women every -LSB- where -RSB- . ... Peoria , El Paso . ... And what 's amazing is that I find that my story is their story ; their story is my story -- down to the details . He dragged me down the hall by my hair . He pulled me out of bed by my panties . He would like to choke me . He would kick .

When I wrote my book , I was somewhere talking about something . And a woman came up to me and she said I wanted you to stop talking because I felt like everybody would know that you were talking about me .

Behar : Oh , boy . And it 's the same progression , too , it seems ?

Givens : I was hit for the first time before I was married . And I did what you thought you should do , of course . You know , you do n't take any phone calls . Three days , absolutely not . Absolutely not . All of a sudden , you start taking a phone calls .

Behar : Softening up .

Givens : Yes . And then all of a sudden , OK , let 's meet and we 'll talk . And then you meet and all of a sudden this person , this man that you love , that 's claiming his love for you , is crying , you know ?

And then you 're consoling them . And it just becomes , I 'll never , ever , ever do it again . ... I just love you so much . It 's so hard for me to handle how much I love you . And it just begins .

Behar : It must have touched you a little bit , too , like here 's this big heavyweight champion crying ...

Givens : Yes . ... To see a man crying like that and promising and professing his love , I thought well , he must love me . ...

Behar : In the fall of that year , you and Mike sat down with Barbara Walters to talk about the relationship . Here 's an excerpt :

Barbara Walters , host : What 's it been like , this roller coaster ?

Givens : It 's been torture . It 's been pure hell . It 's been worse than anything I could possibly imagine . ... He shakes . He pushes . He swings . Sometimes I think he 's trying to scare me .

Behar : That is a most interesting moment in that interview , which I 've seen many times . What was going on in your head during that interview ?

Givens : Well , I was so numb . Barbara knew what was going on in our lives and encouraged me to be honest . I wanted to be honest and thought it would help other people . ...

Behar : By the way , he -LSB- Tyson -RSB- was never convicted of anything ?

Givens : No . ... It 's interesting , though . He had done an interview somewhere . ... I do n't know specifically , but -LSB- he said -RSB- the best punch he ever threw was against me and that he punched me in the head and I bounced from one wall to the other .

Behar : After the interview -LSB- with Walters -RSB- , though , you stayed with him .

Givens : Yes .

Behar : Why did you stay with him ?

Givens : Well , he had said that he was going to get help . And I loved him . I wanted to make it work . I was very bonded . And it 's hard to be bonded and save yourself at the same time .

Behar : One of the most influential women in the world used her considerable power to speak up about domestic abuse . Here 's what Oprah Winfrey had to say .

Winfrey : Heal yourself first . And , also , love does n't hurt . I 've been saying this to women for years , love does n't hurt . ... And if a man hits you once , he will hit you again . ... He will hit you again .

Behar : If Oprah was speaking to you , too , call the National Domestic Violence Hot Line now . The number is 1-800-799-SAFE . That 's 1-800-799-7233 . ...

Denise Brown 's sister was Nicole Brown . We all know Nicole Brown Simpson , O.J. Simpson 's former wife . Greetings , Denise . How are you ?

Denise Brown : I am doing great . And I 'm listening to all this information that you guys are talking about and it 's amazing . It 's so great to get out there . You talk about the dirty little secret . And it is . It 's just that -- a dirty little secret . And then you 're talking about what Oprah said -- if they hit you once , they 'll hit you again .

You can even go one step further , Joy , and you can say if they hit you once , they 'll hit you again . And if they ever threaten to kill you , eventually one day they will . ...

You know , it 's the cycle of domestic violence , which is about the power and control of one human being over another -- the verbal , the emotional , the psychological abuse , you know , the chipping away at one 's self-esteem .

I 'm sure you heard it , Robin : you know , nobody is going to want you . I 'm the best thing for you .

Givens : Um-hmm .

Brown : And then that escalates into the physical violence , which is the hitting , the kicking , the punching , throwing up against the walls . And then , of course , -LSB- comes -RSB- the honeymoon phase . And that 's the ` oh , baby , I 'm so sorry . It 's never going to happen again . '

Givens : She 's absolutely right . The woman -- every woman tells the same story .

Behar : If you read the Internet now , there 's some hostility toward Rihanna . They 're saying she provoked Chris . What do you make of that ?

Givens : I do n't know why that is . I mean I do n't know why in our society that is , that we blame the victim .

Brown : Battery treatment programs is what people need . I spoke to a gentleman , Dr. Donald Dutton . He wrote a book , `` The Batterer . '' He said right now , it would take three years for people that are batterers to get that mindset to change .

And I 'm sure that 's even more . And our society does not take it serious enough ... until , of course , there 's a murder or there 's a celebrity or something of that nature , which is really sad .

Givens : The one thing I 'd like to say to Rihanna , actually ; as difficult as this all is , she does not have to answer to the media . She does n't have to explain it . She has to take care of herself .

Behar : Thank you all very much . Go to CNN.com / LarryKing if you have something to say about domestic abuse . If you need help , there are resources listed there for you . Do n't wait . Get help now .

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Robin Givens , Denise Brown talk about women and domestic violence

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Givens says Mike Tyson would drag her by her hair and try to choke her

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Why did Givens stay for so long ? She thought her love would fix the situation

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Brown says only when celebrity stories like Rihanna 's come out do people care